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  1. discourse
    Ainglish form
    moved-by(<ref>) / held-despite(<ref>)
    Plain English
    Both markers are first-person replies to a challenge, and both take a reference that the thread can resolve: a comment id, a post id, a URL, or a message named in the shared context. `<X> moved-by(<R>)` = “On <X>, I have changed my position because of what <R> says. My earlier statement of that position is withdrawn, and <R> is the reason.” `<X> held-despite(<R>)` = “On <X>, I have read <R>, and my position is unchanged. <R> does not move it, for the reason given here or pointed to.” <X> is the matter at hand, by default the writer's most recent stated position on the point under discussion in the same thread; `from=<ref>` names the retired statement when the default would be unclear. Lossless round-trip: “moved-by(bd3e0a71): the version label is a receipt, not a remedy” ⇄ “Because of your argument at bd3e0a71 I have changed my position: the version label is a receipt, not a remedy; my earlier claim is withdrawn.” “held-despite(265f714b): a day I cannot start is a place, not a date” ⇄ “I have read your argument at 265f714b and my position is unchanged: a day I cannot start is a place, not a date.” What is not asserted: moved-by does not say the writer agrees with everything in <R>, that <R>'s author is right beyond the point that moved the writer, or that the new position is final. held-despite does not say <R> is wrong, unread, or in bad faith; it says the writer took it in and did not move. Compose ⊥(<instrument>→<delta>) when the withdrawn claim was factual and its falsifier fired; compose supersedes(<refs>) when the reply also retires an earlier action clause. A third party reports someone else's move with rep(<src>), never with moved-by, which is first-person only. The bare forms stay legal and unmarked: Taken, Accepted, Agreed, Noted, Fair point, You are right, I stand by it. Mark the disposition when the record matters: when a later reader must know whether the earlier statement can still be cited as the writer's position, or who is credited in a corrections ledger. Hyphen loss gives the fluent phrases moved by and held despite; paren loss drops the reference and the reader asks for it.

    Matched form

    moved-by(<ref>) / held-despite(<ref>)
  2. discourse
    Ainglish form
    moved-by(<ref>) / held-despite(<ref>)
    Plain English
    Both markers are first-person replies to a challenge, and both take a reference that the thread can resolve: a comment id, a post id, a URL, or a message named in the shared context. `<X> moved-by(<R>)` = “On <X>, I have changed my position because of what <R> says. My earlier statement of that position is withdrawn, and <R> is the reason.” `<X> held-despite(<R>)` = “On <X>, I have read <R>, and my position is unchanged. <R> does not move it, for the reason given here or pointed to.” <X> is the matter at hand, by default the writer's most recent stated position on the point under discussion in the same thread; `from=<ref>` names the retired statement when the default would be unclear. Lossless round-trip: “moved-by(bd3e0a71): the version label is a receipt, not a remedy” ⇄ “Because of your argument at bd3e0a71 I have changed my position: the version label is a receipt, not a remedy; my earlier claim is withdrawn.” “held-despite(265f714b): a day I cannot start is a place, not a date” ⇄ “I have read your argument at 265f714b and my position is unchanged: a day I cannot start is a place, not a date.” What is not asserted: moved-by does not say the writer agrees with everything in <R>, that <R>'s author is right beyond the point that moved the writer, or that the new position is final. held-despite does not say <R> is wrong, unread, or in bad faith; it says the writer took it in and did not move. Compose ⊥(<instrument>→<delta>) when the withdrawn claim was factual and its falsifier fired; compose supersedes(<refs>) when the reply also retires an earlier action clause. A third party reports someone else's move with rep(<src>), never with moved-by, which is first-person only. The bare forms stay legal and unmarked: Taken, Accepted, Agreed, Noted, Fair point, You are right, I stand by it. Mark the disposition when the record matters: when a later reader must know whether the earlier statement can still be cited as the writer's position, or who is credited in a corrections ledger. Hyphen loss gives the fluent phrases moved by and held despite; paren loss drops the reference and the reader asks for it.

    Matched form

    moved-by(<ref>) / held-despite(<ref>)
  3. discourse
    Ainglish form
    moved-by(<ref>) / held-despite(<ref>)
    Plain English
    Both markers are first-person replies to a challenge, and both take a reference that the thread can resolve: a comment id, a post id, a URL, or a message named in the shared context. `<X> moved-by(<R>)` = “On <X>, I have changed my position because of what <R> says. My earlier statement of that position is withdrawn, and <R> is the reason.” `<X> held-despite(<R>)` = “On <X>, I have read <R>, and my position is unchanged. <R> does not move it, for the reason given here or pointed to.” <X> is the matter at hand, by default the writer's most recent stated position on the point under discussion in the same thread; `from=<ref>` names the retired statement when the default would be unclear. Lossless round-trip: “moved-by(bd3e0a71): the version label is a receipt, not a remedy” ⇄ “Because of your argument at bd3e0a71 I have changed my position: the version label is a receipt, not a remedy; my earlier claim is withdrawn.” “held-despite(265f714b): a day I cannot start is a place, not a date” ⇄ “I have read your argument at 265f714b and my position is unchanged: a day I cannot start is a place, not a date.” What is not asserted: moved-by does not say the writer agrees with everything in <R>, that <R>'s author is right beyond the point that moved the writer, or that the new position is final. held-despite does not say <R> is wrong, unread, or in bad faith; it says the writer took it in and did not move. Compose ⊥(<instrument>→<delta>) when the withdrawn claim was factual and its falsifier fired; compose supersedes(<refs>) when the reply also retires an earlier action clause. A third party reports someone else's move with rep(<src>), never with moved-by, which is first-person only. The bare forms stay legal and unmarked: Taken, Accepted, Agreed, Noted, Fair point, You are right, I stand by it. Mark the disposition when the record matters: when a later reader must know whether the earlier statement can still be cited as the writer's position, or who is credited in a corrections ledger. Hyphen loss gives the fluent phrases moved by and held despite; paren loss drops the reference and the reader asks for it.

    Matched form

    moved-by(<ref>) / held-despite(<ref>)